Author Topic: Old E in the Old Winchester  (Read 4681 times)

wildman1

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Old E in the Old Winchester
« on: August 09, 2013, 02:21:26 AM »
Finally got some loaded fer the old Winchester. Gonna go to the range today and try em out.
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Re: Old E in the Old Winchester
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2013, 06:22:01 AM »
Stuff has been turning out some amazing accuracy and velocity in the Sharps rifles.
The velocity it held up and the clean foul in the 38-40 bisley was sure encouraging.
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wildman1

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Re: Old E in the Old Winchester
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2013, 11:02:03 AM »
Seems to work in the 44/40 OK, seems to be about the same as Swiss in the trapdoor. Didn't go to the range today. Rained all day so I loaded bout 500 38 sp for Miss B's cowboy rifle. Once I start figuring The Winchester out I might start lookin at different bullets.
WARTHOG, NMLRA, NRA, BOLD #1056, DIRTY RAT #600, HIRAM'S RANGERS #106, AF&AM   Iffen ya ain't the lead dog, the view is the same.

wildman1

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Re: Old E in the Old Winchester
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2013, 02:24:43 AM »
I have tried several loads of 1.5 Old E in the Old W, limited success. I have had groups in the 2 1/4" to 2 3/4" range at 100 yds. OK but not great. I have tried using Mag rifle primers and encountered what I consider to be a very strange result. Identical loads and bullet weights. Mag primers average between 50 to 150 fps slower than regular primers (same brand). With the mag primers I wouldn't even call them groups. However I just tried some Old E 2F 50gs by weight, 250g bullet, group size 1 7/16", 52gs by weight a little over 7", 54gs about 15". Seemed to spread out quickly after the 50g load. I'm getting just a little under 1/2" of compression with the 54g load. I'm going to try more and less powder than those loads to see where it goes, 46-48gs and 56-58gs. I have a copy of some loads (56gs Goex 2F) by Venturino and he says to use Fed mag primers for that gun, but his groups (2) at 100yds are listed as 3.88 and 5.25". None of the groups listed by him are under 2.75". The only load I shot with Mag primers that showed any promise was 55gs and a 330g+ bullet.
WARTHOG, NMLRA, NRA, BOLD #1056, DIRTY RAT #600, HIRAM'S RANGERS #106, AF&AM   Iffen ya ain't the lead dog, the view is the same.

Ranch 13

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Re: Old E in the Old Winchester
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2013, 01:23:58 PM »
Olde E works the best with about .250 and no more than .3 compression. Mag primers don't work worth a flip, regular primers seem to be as good as any, no particularly noticeable difference with pistol primers like KIK shows.
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wildman1

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Re: Old E in the Old Winchester
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2013, 03:00:12 AM »
Had more than 1/4" compression with some of the heavier loads. Guess I will try for 1/4" with some wads or filler and lighter loads.
WARTHOG, NMLRA, NRA, BOLD #1056, DIRTY RAT #600, HIRAM'S RANGERS #106, AF&AM   Iffen ya ain't the lead dog, the view is the same.

wildman1

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Re: Old E in the Old Winchester
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2013, 04:23:00 AM »
Loaded a bunch of 2f and 1.5f with 1/4" compression gonna tryem if it stops rainin. WM
WARTHOG, NMLRA, NRA, BOLD #1056, DIRTY RAT #600, HIRAM'S RANGERS #106, AF&AM   Iffen ya ain't the lead dog, the view is the same.